License plates

[Grumpy 1]

Well, let’s see Ed . . . I’ve learned that you cannot spell and if you had any outside or inside “Information Intelligence” regarding what is really going on, you sure didn’t direct anyone to a currently available easily accessible location.

There is nothing out there worth scrutinizing yet anyway!!!

The URL Ed was attempting to guide you folks to is  . . . http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2010/Bill.aspx?File=SB1P.htm

This is all that CURRENTLY applies to you guys . . .

 Section 5. That § 32-5-9 be amended to read as follows:
    32-5-9. License fees and compensation for use of the highways payable under § 32-5-5 shall be: nine twelve dollars and fifty cents for motorcycles with a piston displacement of less than three hundred fifty cubic centimeters and twelve fourteen dollars and fifty cents for motorcycles with a piston displacement of three hundred fifty cubic centimeters or more.
    Section 6. That § 32-6B-21 be amended to read as follows:
    32-6B-21. The department shall issue metal numerical license plates to licensed dealers upon application and payment of a forty-two sixty-three dollar yearly fee to be paid at the time of the annual review date for each set desired. Such The fees shall be distributed in the manner specified in §§ 32-11-2 and 32-11-4.1 to 32-11-9, inclusive. The license plates shall be numbered consecutively and shall bear as a prefix the number 77. The plates may be issued for a multiple year period. If a dealer's license is revoked or canceled or the dealer goes out of business the 77 plates shall be returned to the department. If any person operates a motor vehicle with 77 plates after the dealer license is revoked or canceled or after the dealer goes out of business, or if the person refuses to return the plates, the person is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor.

More to come for SURE! . . .Interesting to hold mirror up and read "The Lion King" as who is responding . Ed 

[Grumpy 1]

Are you aware that there is an effort from Rapid City to have the license plate's taken away from ATV's.  The statement was made at an early 2009 meeting of the Off Road Association in Rapid City.  The guy who made the  statement is a board member of the South Dakota Off Highway Vehicle Coalition (SDOHVC) and a board member of the Off Road Riders Association (ORA). Plus executive secretary fo blue ribbon. As I understand it now he is working with a former legislator to get the ball rolling in the 2010 legislature.  We are had at it to not let this happen even tho the ORA has not and says they will not take a stand on the license plate issue.  It looks like they already have with ORA being a big supporter of SDOHVC and a board member against license plates on ATV's in boith groups. 

Well here it is Dec. 18 and a daughters 50th birthday.  Had an interesting visit with Senator Craig Tieszen of Rapid yesterday.  He has drafted  a bill that will change the whole set up of OHV's/atv's/utv's or what ever you want to call them. It is still being worked on but I imagine our friend in California knows more about the bill than anyone else.  It's something you should visit about at the poker run in Volin tomorrow.  If you feel you want more info you might contact the Senator.  He tells me he will be hard to get a hold of starting this next Monday for a couple of weeks before the session. I have a copy of the bill as drafted.  Ed

[Grumpy 1]

You can find all the codified state laws by going to http://legis.state.sd.us/index.aspx  plus your current session and legislators.  I'd hope all the members would learn to use this site and not be misled by someone who wants to keep folks from learning the laws etc.  the following laws are in the draft by the senator to be repealed! 
 
 32-20-12.   Off-road vehicles--Operation on certain lands as misdemeanor--Registration--Title certificate. No person may operate on a public street or highway an off-road vehicle except for crossing from one side of the road to the other. A person twelve years of age or older may operate an off-road vehicle in a highway ditch if the vehicle is operated as close as possible to the outer edge of the highway right-of-way. However, no person may operate an off-road vehicle in a highway ditch along the interstate highway system, or operate an off-road vehicle on any lands owned, leased, or controlled by the Department of Game, Fish and Parks, or any highway ditch located within, except on a designated off-road vehicle area or designated trail, or operate an off-road vehicle in a highway ditch that is designated as part of the state snowmobile trails system pursuant to chapter 41-19 or a public bike trail. A violation of this section is a Class 2 misdemeanor.

     Off-road vehicles need not be registered and licensed for use upon the highways except as provided in § 32-20-13. Off-road vehicles shall be titled. The Department of Revenue shall issue a certificate of title for off-road vehicles the same as for other motor vehicles subject to the provisions of chapter 32-3.

   32-20-12.1.   Ordinances prohibiting operation of off-road vehicles in ditches--Exceptions--Regulatory signs. Notwithstanding the provisions of § 32-20-12, the Transportation Commission or any board of county commissioners by ordinance may prohibit the operation of off-road vehicles in any highway ditch along any section of highway under its jurisdiction. However, neither the Transportation Commission nor any board of county commissioners may prohibit an off-road vehicle from crossing one side of the highway to the other. This section does not affect off-road vehicles used in normal agricultural operation or service vehicles of any utility while in the line of duty for the utility. For the purposes of this section, the term, utility, means any provider of electric, gas, water, sewer, pipeline, or telecommunications service.

     Notice of any restriction made pursuant to this section shall be given by placing and maintaining regulatory signs at each end of the section of highway and at each point of intersection. The signs shall be of substantial construction which conspicuously indicates the restriction.

  32-20-13.   All-terrain vehicle licensed as motorcycle--Requirements--Use on interstate highway system prohibited--Violation as misdemeanor. Any all-terrain vehicle with four or more wheels and with a combustion engine having a piston or rotor displacement of two hundred cubic centimeters or more may be licensed as a motorcycle pursuant to chapter 32-5 to be used on a public highway. Prior to being licensed the all-terrain vehicle shall meet the necessary light, brake, and other vehicle accessory requirements provided by chapters 32-15, 32-17, and 32-18 that are applicable to motorcycles. The licensed all-terrain vehicle may not be operated on the interstate highway system. A person who operates such a licensed all-terrain vehicle on the interstate highway system is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor

[RedDodge]

Road Ditches To Be Closed To Off-Road Vehicles
 

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Posts The South Dakota Transportation Commission has closed the roadside ditches of three segments of state highways to off-road vehicles.

They are:
- Highway 115 from Sioux Falls to Dell Rapids
- Highway 11 through and North of Garretson
- Highway 17 from Lennox to the intersection of Highway 42

Officials say the sections have received a considerable amount of damage from off-road vehicles. The closure does not apply to snowmobiles, off-road vehicles used in normal agricultural operations or those used to service
utilities such as gas, water, sewer, pipeline or telecommunications services.

The state DOT will begin placing signs marking the restricted areas in the next couple of weeks. Violation a Class 2 Misdemeanor.

[redrzr]

I was just informed by a individual who works for the state shop in armour that they are going to start enforcing things in this area,i told him i understand that the ditchs need to be posted before they can be enforced,unless the state ditchs are differant than the countys.

[ACAT]

I drove down Hwy 17 today no signs yet.

[Grumpy 1]

Are you aware that there is an effort from Rapid City to have the license plate's taken away from ATV's.  The statement was made at an early 2009 meeting of the Off Road Association in Rapid City.  The guy who made the  statement is a board member of the South Dakota Off Highway Vehicle Coalition (SDOHVC) and a board member of the Off Road Riders Association (ORA). Plus executive secretary fo blue ribbon. As I understand it now he is working with a former legislator to get the ball rolling in the 2010 legislature.  We are had at it to not let this happen even tho the ORA has not and says they will not take a stand on the license plate issue.  It looks like they already have with ORA being a big supporter of SDOHVC and a board member against license plates on ATV's in boith groups.

You can read the bill as drafted at http://www.southdakotaatv.com/ plus some comments.  Please take a look

[Just me]

Are you aware that there is an effort from Rapid City to have the license plate's taken away from ATV's.  The statement was made at an early 2009 meeting of the Off Road Association in Rapid City.  The guy who made the  statement is a board member of the South Dakota Off Highway Vehicle Coalition (SDOHVC) and a board member of the Off Road Riders Association (ORA). Plus executive secretary fo blue ribbon. As I understand it now he is working with a former legislator to get the ball rolling in the 2010 legislature.  We are had at it to not let this happen even tho the ORA has not and says they will not take a stand on the license plate issue.  It looks like they already have with ORA being a big supporter of SDOHVC and a board member against license plates on ATV's in boith groups.

I was reading about Grumpy's bill and loosing the license plate WOW has everyone read this bill at http://www.southdakotaatv.com/  some of that stuff is nuts.

[Grumpy 1]

How the Hell did this guy know so much about SD unless he was talking do someone I had worked with.  This guy is really backwords hold his Lying king up to a mirror.

[Woody]

We are told "you are going to loose the right to license your ATV for road use anyway"  by the BRC. 

We are told that "there are people in the state legislature that are dead set against highway use of ATVs" 

We are told that "the state don't want the hassle of licensing ATVs" 

We are told that "we will loose trails in the Black Hills if we don't give up our right to ride on the highway or streets" 

We are told that "the money from a permit sticker for ATVs will go to a State Trail System only"

We will loose our right to ride on the streets and highways because orginizations would rather negotiate away that right for whatever crumbs the state wants to hand out rather than fight to keep them.

If there are people in the state legislature that "hate ATVs"  perhaps they need to be told that there are X number of ATV owners in the state and that the organizations that represent those people will ask their members to donate at least $10.00 each to the campaign fund of anyone that is running against the ATV haters in the next election.

I can't believe the state don't want the hassle of licensing ATVs, you show me a state that will turn down revenue of any kind and I will show you a state called Xanadu.

The trails we will loose in the Black Hills are those designated as "roads" by either the county or the Forest Service.  We will not loose those that are already designated.  What will be lost is children not old enough to get a drivers license will not be allowed to ride on those trails/roads.  There are other open areas where they can ride.

As far as money being set aside for a trail system only.  No legislator EVER wants to see money laying around unspent.  If that provision is written into a law, it can just as easily be written out in the next legislative session.  I frankly would rather trust the devil than a politician who will promise you the moon, throw you just enough crumbs to keep you loyal and sell you down the river at the first chance.

I for one would like to know just who gave the BRC the authority to give away my right to ride my now legally licensed ATV on the street.  I don't remember signing anything to that effect.  It seems that they are willing to give away something that they don't own for the promise of a few crumbs in the future and all the time telling us "Trust me we know what is good for you."

Remember that if you are negotiating, the other side is winning.  I am tired of people telling me we are dividing up the farm equally, we get the horse, you get the rabbit.  The opposition is playing hard ball and we seem to be playing nerf ball and when all is finally lost we will be sitting around wondering what the hell happened. 

[Just Me]

Man Woody it looks like you had your hands full.  I know we are not lucky enough in this part of the state to have the Black Hills to ride in and I know many of us have no choice but to ride oil roads and we really really need the license plate.  I'm hoping someone on this forum will get a group together to go to Pierre they need a group of us to be there.  I read that draft on the .com sight and man what confusion it would cause in some of these towns that have streets, state highways and county roads, all within their area, maybe a mile or two. Guess I don't know about townships but man don't they change about ever 6 to ten miles on the avg.   Somebody start a list of who can go.

[Harvey]

I would like any information on this possibility of a Bill in the legislature on removing the licensing of 4 wheel vehicles (ATV's).  Who, What, When, Where?
Any such action must be stopped!

[irisht58]

For more information on this bill, and some good discussion, go to http://southdakotaatv.com. And while you are there, sign up. It's a state-wide site meant to bring ATV riders together for important issues like the license plates, but its also a place to put together a ride. You can advertise your upcoming rides, events, etc.  And if you have an established club, or are interested in starting one, you can set up your own group on this site.

The one good thing that has come from this proposed legislation, is the formation of a network of riders. The next time something like this comes up, we are ahead of the game if we can quickly communicate state-wide with other ATV riders. Our biggest struggle wasn't convincing riders how crazy this legislation is, it was finding a way to alert everyone in a timely manner. Join SouthDakotaATV.com today!

[Grumpy 1]

Are you aware that there is an effort from Rapid City to have the license plate's taken away from ATV's.  The statement was made at an early 2009 meeting of the Off Road Association in Rapid City.  The guy who made the  statement is a board member of the South Dakota Off Highway Vehicle Coalition (SDOHVC) and a board member of the Off Road Riders Association (ORA). Plus executive secretary fo blue ribbon. As I understand it now he is working with a former legislator to get the ball rolling in the 2010 legislature.  We are had at it to not let this happen even tho the ORA has not and says they will not take a stand on the license plate issue.  It looks like they already have with ORA being a big supporter of SDOHVC and a board member against license plates on ATV's in boith groups.

If you have petitions signed please get them to me.  And thanks to those of you who have signed and or returned them . PLUS ALL YOUR CONTACTS WITH THE LEGISLATORS.  i'M EXPECTING THE BILL TO BE INTRODUCED TODAY wEDNESDAY. Thanks, Ed

[Grumpy 1]

Thanks to all  who have mailed or faxed petitions back the mail box was full today and I'm expecting more on Monday so if you can get more signatures go for it and mail ASAP.  I would  like to name all of you who have returned the petitions but I'm sure I would miss some so you know who you are and Thanks big time.  Hope to see and meet a bunch of you on rides or elsewhere in the state..Ed Goss