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Re: License plates
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2009, 06:33:45 PM »
I would love to surround the capital with machines, I have four that are all license for the street. Just let me know when and I'll be there.
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Re: License plates
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2009, 06:49:24 PM »
If enough of us find out about this, we will have enough numbers to surround the whole town.  Why does it seem like they are on a mission to take away all of our rights?    >:(  Do they have any idea how much $$$ ATV riders add to the economy?  That makes sense, take away more liscensed vehicles from the road, right when tax dollars are short for highway funds.   ??? 
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Re: License plates
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2009, 06:43:15 PM »
If enough of us find out about this, we will have enough numbers to surround the whole town.  Why does it seem like they are on a mission to take away all of our rights?    >:(  Do they have any idea how much $$$ ATV riders add to the economy?  That makes sense, take away more liscensed vehicles from the road, right when tax dollars are short for highway funds.   ??? 
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Re: License plates
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2009, 08:34:11 PM »
From what I understood from that is atvs will still be able to be licenced for the street.  But the highway is BS! I think as long as you can keep up with the flow of traffic you should still beable to ride the highways.  I ride mine on the streets and highways all around Sioux Falls, the only thing that needs to be changed is makeing actual  atv laws, it seems like the cops in SF seem like there just wingin it, one will pull you over for runnin dirt tires and the next one says there fine same with passengers.  As long as they are not going to outlaw atvs on the street I see no problem, they just need to get a little more organized. 
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Re: License plates
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2009, 12:04:45 AM »
So in other words,Whistler Gulch Campground in Deadwood will be the last place I spend one dollar.

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Re: License plates
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2009, 05:51:51 AM »
From what I understood from that is atvs will still be able to be licenced for the street.  But the highway is BS! I think as long as you can keep up with the flow of traffic you should still beable to ride the highways.  I ride mine on the streets and highways all around Sioux Falls, the only thing that needs to be changed is makeing actual  atv laws, it seems like the cops in SF seem like there just wingin it, one will pull you over for runnin dirt tires and the next one says there fine same with passengers.  As long as they are not going to outlaw atvs on the street I see no problem, they just need to get a little more organized. 
I hope you are paying attention to what is happening to your ATV rights.   This in the RC Journal again today.  Stir up the SE corner of the state we need your votes.
Off-road efforts good for all users
The new off-road vehicle travel
management plan for the Black
Hills National Forest should be in
place by the first of the year.
The plan, developed by the
National Forest Service after the
review of months of public input,
will establish a designated offroad
trail system in the national
forest for off-highway vehicles —
ATVs and dirt bikes.
The plan won’t end off-road
use in the Black Hills, it will
simply regulate and manage it,
which will benefit all users of the
national forest.We’re glad to see
the forest plan finally come
together.At the same time,we’re
glad to see ATV riders join in the
effort to regulate this growing
sport.
In anticipation of the forest
service plan,local groups are advocating
the Legislature implement
some new rules for ATV users.
A proposal in its early stages
has the backing of at least two
major off-road associations and
dovetails nicely into the forest
service plan to manage the hills.
What’s being proposed by
local groups is implementation of
some basic laws to govern allterrain
vehicles — banning ATV
use on major highways as well as
a licensing and registration
system.
The proposal should be ready
for to the 2010 Legislature to
consider.
The creation of the forest
management plan is partly due to
complaints that off-road riders
are doing unnecessary damage to
some areas of the Black Hills.
We’re sure a minority of the riders
are generating the complaints,
and it appears clear a majority of
the riders are content to work towards
a solution.
The forest management plan
will come with a fee for off-road
users — probably in the $25 range
— and the money generated will
be used to create, maintain and
supervise the trail system.
As is often the case, a small
population of off-road riders
have generated enough complaints
and concerns to warrant
action — both from the forest
service and local enthusiasts.
The forest service efforts in trail
management and the private efforts
to manage the growing offroad
vehicle industry are positive
moves that will result in more
enjoyment for riders and a better
managed national forest.
We like what we’re seeing here
and think it’s best for the Black
Hills.We have a group of off-road
enthusiasts willing to work handin-
hand with the forest service
and the state to ensure a positive
future for their activity.
Everyone benefits in that
scenario.

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Re: License plates
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2009, 03:05:46 PM »
yah you got my vote, they take use off the streets then I guess we will have to ride in the ditches again and tear up peoples lawns..  I have no place in sioux Falls to ride mine besides the street, I take mine on poker runs with the street bikes.  Let me know when and where to vote against this crap.
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Re: License plates
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2009, 09:34:58 AM »
 Attention ATV/UTV owners, leasers, dealers, others and those living near a trail or hard surface road or any county road posted at 55 mph or more.  Legislation is being purposed that will remove you and your machine off hard surface roads and roads posted at 55 MPH or more and most likely a change in your license plate for your machines.  It will be up to those who have a concerns to see that what comes out of the legislature makes sense. Doesn't make much sense if you live a short distance from a trail or convenience  store and don't care to or can't  walk that far that you would not be able to take your 4 wheeler.
    It is my understanding the the Off Road Riders association in Rapid City have approached a Rapid City state Senator to take this bill before the next session of the legislature. If you have concerns or want more information please feel free to contact me. 

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Re: License plates
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2009, 04:52:08 PM »
This just irritates me to no end.  We can't ride in many ditches, soon to be many highways, less and less trails all the time, what's next?  Maybe they should just go out and say that in 10 years they are going to ban the sale of ATV's in the US?  Another of my pet peeves is that snowmobiles have the right to tear the hell out of the approaches, and that's fine?  Why are ATV's being singled out?  I believe the reason why is because the snowmobile riders are much more organized.  We NEED to get together and stop this BS.  If we don't, then we are just handing over our rights on a silver platter.
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Re: License plates
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2009, 08:43:02 PM »
Thumper you are correct YAHOO.  A state wide organization of ATV's is the way to go. I have some ideas on that as a couple of us were ready to do that years ago when SDOHVC came along and has since not been at all what ATV's need in fat they havwe hyrt us a lot. And in my opionion All because of one individual and he is the exec of the Blue ribbon Coalition.

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Re: License plates
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2009, 09:46:54 PM »
Where do we need to go, who do we need to talk to, what do we need to do?  Can we flood someone with emails or phone calls?  If you've got any specifics, let us know.  Is there any petitions floating around or are there some coming?  If we continue to do nothing, that is telling them that we don't really care.  Oh, and everyone who rides snowmobiles- I've got nothing against them at all.  I just feel that ATV's should have the same rights.
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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2009, 08:21:00 AM »
If I was to do something in SD it would be to contact all of the folks on this sight as nearly 90% have not been active since this came up.  I'd email them and if you know of any groups or a clubs in the state they all should get that petition up that you mentioned.  The folks in Eastern SD are the ones with the votes in the legislature so they will have the most influence and this is the best sight or forum that I know of if anyone know of more SD sights let me know.

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Re: License plates
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2009, 01:52:23 PM »
I know there's a club or two in SE SD, I don't know their names off hand, but someone on here probably does.  I will talk to the guys from the Glacial Lakes Motorcycle club up north here today and let them know what's going on.  They are sponsors of the South Shore Off-Road riding area up here, and maybe they know of some contacts to other clubs or organizations to spread the word.  The pencil pushers need to hear our voice.  Thanks for your work so far Grumpy.
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Re: License plates
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2009, 06:13:11 PM »
For those of you who are so quick to castigate and dismiss the BlueRibbon Coalition for their efforts on your behalf I submit the following.

The short story is that this whole issue is about trying to develop a funding mechanism for trails in SD.  In the process of doing that, proponents of the funding for trails discovered very quickly there were a lot of factions and people in HIGH places in the State who want the license plates and ALL ability to ride ATVs and UTVs on roads taken away completely.

In order to develop the necessary support to get a funding mechanism in place, and also to salvage some long term capability to ride on roads between trails and other places, the BRC has developed a compromise that can still allow for that to happen, albeit not on highways.  Even at that, the Legislation various groups want to introduce allows for County, City or other Local Government to override and allow for riding on hardened surface roads under their jurisdiction.

In fact, based on those who the BRC has spoken with in the State, the license plates are going to eventually go away because the State has way too much exposure legally and financially.  This is the only State in the Union with a loophole in the motorcycle laws that allows for licensing ATVs and UTVs to drive on highways.

It is what it is folks, beat on your Public Servants and not the BRC!
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Re: License plates
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2009, 10:11:09 AM »
Lets see I pay a license for 3 trailers I use with ATV's another one for livestock a pickup license, gas tax, $2,00 perwheel tax.  Most if not all goes to roads   Have friends in from out of state as tourist riding and spending $$$$ in our state that includes sales tax and we want to exclude them or me from using the roads in SD how nuts is that. Any way I was thinking it is time to start writing letters to the editors explaining the dollars spent on ATV's in this state.  I'm thinking the locals all get the county or small town paper and that is the place to send your letter to the editor.   I see this site has over 180 folks signed up and it would be nice if all of them would join us with there ATV thoughts at  http://www.southdakotaatv.com/  Thanks for letting me express some thoughts.