sick & tired

[kawasaki]

I'm really getting sick & tired of the guy's with the most money winning every event we go to. I don't like donating to people that win every race.  I think if we are going to keep the atv racing going we need to figuire out a way to make it more fair.  After all I thought it was for fun any way.   

[stumper]

It dont fucking matter who spends the most money. It dont take a rocket scientist to figure out that not every machine is created equal. IF there was a way to make sure every one was BONE stock you would have the same out come. You would have the same person winning all the time ,only no you would have some saying they were cheating. RACING =MONEY ,you want to win in your CCclass you spend the money.We are not Nascar or the NHRA, we dont have Millions to tech or have the top of the line timing systems.

[Nelly]

I agree with Stumper here. The person with the most money is not the person who wins all the time. Drag racing is not about money spent. Its about getting your machine to run the best it can within the limit of your class and then knowing how to drive it. And the name of the game is consistency. I can not stress that one enough. You cant be competitive until you get a lot of seat time under your belt and figure out the best way to get your machine down the track.  Like Stumer said, we are not nascar, nhra, ihra, etc. We all do this to have fun and to be able to get together once in awhile. Most of us dont care about the money, we care about the fun and the friendships that come from these races.

[stumper]

I agree with Stumper here. The person with the most money is not the person who wins all the time. Drag racing is not about money spent. Its about getting your machine to run the best it can within the limit of your class and then knowing how to drive it. And the name of the game is consistency. I can not stress that one enough. You cant be competitive until you get a lot of seat time under your belt and figure out the best way to get your machine down the track.  Like Stumer said, we are not nascar, nhra, ihra, etc. We all do this to have fun and to be able to get together once in awhile. Most of us dont care about the money, we care about the fun and the friendships that come from these races.

EXACTLY!!!! The races your involved in take, what maybe a total of 60 seconds of the day? Win what? Even with 10 quads in your class,40-50 bucks? Its about the rest of the time spent there that is the fun part!!!! The racing is just an excuse to get there and have a little bragging rights to go with it.

[kawasaki]

I've spent lot's of time in the seat but why should I have to spend $$$ on my quad to compete for bragging rights

[stumper]

I've spent lot's of time in the seat but why should I have to spend $$$ on my quad to compete for bragging rights

Nobodys asking you to. Tell everyone what the answer to the problem is. Like I said," Make" everyone be stock,which will be IMPOSSIBLE to Tech,and you will still have one person winning all the time and it "wont be fair" to the guys with machines that are pooches from the factory and participation will drop. Give people the option to do some mods and they will have a chance to out tune the next guy as well as out ride him.Racing isnt about JUST the driver. You want lights and timers? Who is going to pay for them? To quote Harry Hawg in Day of thunder " there aint nuthing stock about a stock car"!!! This is LOW budget racing at its finest. You want to see Expensive racing? Hit the sand and see what serious "not for just for fun" Racing is all about.

[kawasaki]

it won't take much longer and you won't have anybody to compete with.  If you you want to compete at that level go to the sand and stay out of the "low budget" races

[stumper]

If what you want is a NO mod class,your gonna see even less entries. Hell,you wouldnt even be legal.Just how many guys do you think are out there that havent done anything to their machines.? If you think the reason we had a poor trn out at Geddes is because the guys with "stock" machines were afraid to run your crazy. All you talked about all yr was how you didnt want to run there because the Geddes Gumbo  dont wash off. You think YOUR the only one thinking that way?Like I said before, tell us what the answer to the problem is, maybe somone will try it.

[Nelly]

I would like to know the answer to this problem as well. Persoanlly, I dont know of one machine that races that is completly bone stock out of the crate. Guys put pipes, intakes, whatever it is on their quad even if they dont race. Its part of the sport, everyone loves that stuff and everyone does that stuff. If you want to have a bone stock machine than you probably shouldn't be racing it in the first place. If you want bracket racing, buy a timing system and we would be happy to try it out. But i'll tell you this now, even if you go to bracket racing, your more than likely still going to see the same winners more than once throughout the year. If you want to cry about coming up and playin around with the rest of us then maybe you should just stay home and let us have fun. People like this is what ruins the fun in the sport and drives people away from it.

[rundrave]

I love these posts....why dont you just throw the sand bagger term in with it all as well.

here is the deal, racing is racing there is a winner and a loser. No one is gaurenteed a win ever! Anything can happen at any time.

By no means am I an expert at dragging, I prefer a much longer race like 2 hrs and rougher than $hit. Anyways the point I am trying to make is this, lets take Nelly for example, I dont know him but I am going to use him as an example. The guy drags a manual quad, he doesnt win his races because he has $$$, he wins a drag race because he nails the lights, and knows how to shift a quad. He misses one shift or sleeps on a light he will probably lose.

my advice to you is instead of spending time on your computer crying about people winning, try doing something productive like watching race video or maybe even go to the track and ride. My guess is your starts arent where they should be, and you are to slow off the line. Hell you drive a CVT, nail the light and hit it, what more do you have to do? If you cant do that then I am not sure what else to tell you.

Go race your race enjoy the opportunity and leave everything on the track. I suggest you either find a way to earn the top position without ripping on ther current winners. What are you even trying to accomplish here?

[redrzr]

I have been involved in some sort of racing for a long time weather it was atvs, stock cars,or drag cars ,even car shows.I agree with kawasaki that most of the time the machine with the most money and time in it usually wins,thats just the nature of the beast.Its kind of like the polaris vs kaw. vs yamaha vs honda vs canam some machines are better in certain areas than others just pick which area you will be doing the most and go with it and you will be happy.The friends and good times at these events are what make it fun keep it simple and people get along get real serious and nobody does.Thats why i liked racing junkie its grass roots racing at its best,win against alot more expensive machines and its great lose and everyone figures you would have anyway

[Moby]

If the racer with the most money won every event 1bad would be undefeated........that sad sack can only manage to win when the other team flips their quad.     There are quads that race that have had a bag of money thrown at them and they still suck......there are others that have spent alot more time than money and it shows big dividends......Stumper, Thumper, 1bads Renny, and Nelly for example.  I know their are others that run hard with not many mods but those were off the top of my head.  If I remember right Kawasaki.....your 650 hauled ass last year in Geddes, didn't you win your class?  If you spent a little time with her there's no reason you can't win it again.  

Oh on this same subject.......I heard a rumor that quads were going to have to put sand bags on to equal the weight of the heaviest rider and quad for the Yankton race.  If this is the case I'm buying a 450 for me to race just to see Nelly try to ride with #300 pounds of sand bags attached to the YFZ....    Please tell me that the whole weight thing isn't really happening......

[stumper]

There is no question that a machine like mine is going to woop a stock machine if both have equal riders. Thats the problem,he wants the classes to be stock,no mods. He just dont understand what it would take to keep everyone legal and be able to tech it. Thats why we run by the rules we have. If bolt ons are legal for everyone,nobody is cheating and its a no brainer to tech.Sure it leaves the guys that dont have anything done out to lunch,but we all have been there at one time or another. This is racing,guys take this shit seriously whether you like it or not. Seems I remember a certain 650 beating a couple Bolt on quads in Lake andes and the same machine winning the 700-800 mud races at Talsmas last year and 600-700 grass this spring if Im not mistaken  . Does that mean you have a shit load of money into that thing that we dont know about

[ryan12]

i with the group, try putting on event of your own and try to spec them !!!!  then come talk to me, you have no idea what goes into getting a race ready, I try to make it as fair as possibly for everyone, My brute had a spring $30.00 and a cdi $200.00 and tires, and I would say that my brute ran damb good in the mud, and I know you have tires and a cdi so what you bitchen about, I know one thing and it is all about having fun and hanging out with everyone for sure after the race/lol

If you want to be in a fair class buy a 360 prarie and run that class there are very little mods all i could find when i had mine was tires and spring, and if that dont make you happy race the kids class    OHHHHHHH that wont work I took the governor off hunters so it was faster now it is considered souped up!!  Remember all the fun we had riding at talsmas and the races who cares about the 20 bucks you spend you would spend that any ways if you stayed home.

And I made the pit just for you this year and no show!!!!!!  IT WAS NOT GUMBO BY ANY MEANS

[bottlerocket]

Just to let you know last year I was bone stone on the 750 king and I did really well.  It was my fault I didn't win.  I race mainly mud but you have to race the person next to you.  I lost because of my starts.  Otherwise I was real competitive with the guys with bolt on mods.